Commercial / Industry Section Request

[Bellinghamkite]

I wrote back a message to Chris, whom responded, however i can't find that post anymore, so I am putting it here.

Hi Chris,

Clearly I have respected this, however by your own choice you have chosen to exclude those stores or schools that are outside of BC, yet are physically much much closer to the population this forum serves. I have not chosen to draw a line, yet have merely pointed out that the vast majority of other regional forums have included a specific area for such needs.

I haven't heard a strong argument why there could not be such an area on the forum, and clearly it has become standard protocol in other areas.

If you wish to exclude anything south of the border, then I suppose that is your choice, but I believe that the interests of the users of this forum indicate that a commercial/industry section would be beneficial. Its not clear to me why excluding any population from this forum would benefit anyone.

Certainly I understand the need to have a division between commercial and non-commercial posts, but at this point, as a user of this forum, and as the owner of a successful and respected kiteboarding business, I feel that the two can co-exist with very minimal moderator input or responsibility. (ie, commercial goes to commercial, and everything else goes into the general forum). I am merely pointing out that this has worked elsewhere, and that it should be considered as an option for your users. As a user of this forum, I would prefer less censorship.

Thanks

Andy


Question on Where to Post a Sale
by Bellinghamkite » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:53 am

Bellingham KitePaddleSurf.... just 15 miles south of the boarder is having a big summer sale that we'd like to let our good neighbors to the north know about, however I am having trouble finding an appropriate location to post details.

Roughly 40% of our local sales come from BC residents, however we have not been able to be listed in the Stores,Schools section as we are not in BC.

I'm looking to find an "industry, or commercial" sub forum where such posts could be made but I am not finding it.

All of these sites have a spot for such posts, as to not clog the general forum, but still as an area to post FYI information about sales or specials...etc

PSkite.com
NWkite.com
Kiteforum.com
BayAreaKiteboarding.com

If there isn't such a spot here on this forum, I'd have to ask if could be considered, as I think that the population could be well served by having an area where such "industry/commercial" posts could be placed.

Thanks,

Andy

Bellinghamkite

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Re: Question on Where to Post a Sale
by Thor » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:05 pm

Hey Andy, I wish you luck but don't see much happening for you. advertising isn't allowed here for some reason. People have been banned and warned for even just posting a headsup about some deal or other somewhere out there.
Personally I thinks its ridiculous and a downright stupid policy but, I don't own the site so I will just go over there and finish my beer quietly.

FYI Behind the scenes you guys are highly recommended.

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Re: Question on Where to Post a Sale
by cglazier » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:41 pm

Please read our home page which says "This is a free website with no sponsors and no advertising."
All our BC stores and schools have always respected this policy.

CG

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Re: Question on Where to Post a Sale
by Bellinghamkite » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:58 pm

Hi Chris,

Clearly I have respected this, however by your own choice you have chosen to exclude those stores or schools that are outside of BC, yet are physically much much closer to the population this forum serves. I have not chosen to draw a line, yet have merely pointed out that the vast majority of other regional forums have included a specific area for such needs.

I haven't heard a strong argument why there could not be such an area on the forum, and clearly it has become standard protocol in other areas.

If you wish to exclude anything south of the border, then I suppose that is your choice, but I believe that the interests of the users of this forum indicate that a commercial/industry section would be beneficial. Its not clear to me why excluding any population from this forum would benefit anyone.

Certainly I understand the need to have a division between commercial and non-commercial posts, but at this point, as a user of this forum, and as the owner of a successful and respected kiteboarding business, I feel that the two can co-exist with very minimal moderator input or responsibility. (ie, commercial goes to commercial, and everything else goes into the general forum). I am merely pointing out that this has worked elsewhere, and that it should be considered as an option for your users. As a user of this forum, I would prefer less censorship.

Thanks

Andy

[cglazier]

Andy, I am getting tired of repeatedly explaining to you that we are unpaid volunteers who run this non profit website for the benefit of the BC kiteboarding community and we are not here to promote your commercial activity.

CG

[theotherbrian]

HAHAHAHA that didnt take long

[Bellinghamkite]

Hi Chris.

By my count, it has been one time.

My post violates no rules of this forum.

I have not violated a single request.

You seem bent against capitalism.

Are you really not for profit? Did you earn your riches as a not for profit?

For the record, I maintain a full time job as a public school teacher. That is my primary income and occupation.

I participate in kiteboarding because I enjoy helping others.

It is unclear to me why you are hesitant to participate in an open dialog about what serves your membership the best.

[Kieran]

Do the people who run the website have a commercial interest in Airtime? This is often rumoured, but unconfirmed.

If so, they certainly have the right to set the rules as they see fit, but requesting transparency seems reasonable.

[theotherbrian]

Do the people who run the website have a commercial interest in Airtime? This is often rumoured, but unconfirmed.

If so, they certainly have the right to set the rules as they see fit, but requesting transparency seems reasonable.

i agree - ever wonder why a certain person has never ever answered this age old question .......

[nick]

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[coop]

Do the people who run the website have a commercial interest in Airtime? This is often rumoured, but unconfirmed.

If so, they certainly have the right to set the rules as they see fit, but requesting transparency seems reasonable.

i agree - ever wonder why a certain person has never ever answered this age old question .......

transparency? this is a kiteboarding forum. care about something real.

[Tim_bc]

It's a complete joke... No point in wasting any time on it. Everyone knows, if it's not about Airtime don't bother....

Yes transparency about whether Chris has a stake in Airtime or not would be nice, but really at the end of the day it doesn't matter. He's there all the time, so read between the lines if you will.....

It's serious shame, because Andy has done so much for the local kiteboarding scene, dare I say more then almost anyone? Many of us Canadian kiters enjoy going to Locust, and Hunter. Without Andy's direct involvement, this simply may not have been possible. However, because of some imaginary line he is being excluded....Of maybe it's the cheap prices? I dunno.....

It's pathetic and a joke....

For those of you who have yet to try Locust and Hunter, I highly recommend giving it a shot sometime. Not only is the vibe superior(I've never heard anyone complain about anything, let alone about some honey hole that apparently belongs to those who think they are pros, when in fact would be the ideal learning location for noobs...), the conditions and warm water are spectacular.... All relative though, if you live Vancouver or north of, Squamish is the place to go.... South of Vancouver, Locust, Hunter....

Sorry about your luck Andy, but you will continue to get my support and that of many other kiters who enjoy the fruits of your labor. I appreciate everything you've done for us.... Maybe it's just time to open a shop up north of the border? So you could be considered local? Highly unfortunate we all can't be one big happy kiteboarding family.... Meh, ah well....

Cheers,
Tim

[al-kiteta]

Tim everyone in the honey hole is a pro, don't hate on us because we are awesome! Plus it's where the babes and Jim hang out. Ain't never gonna change. Lol next please.

[The Youngin]

What kind of health insurance do you have for crossing the border often for "high impact" sports?
One broken leg and thats a hefty a$$ bill

Squamish is all about "the pros, the social media and the babes anyways"
Its a horrible venue with no place for anybody but pros, I would never take lessons there

[Tim_bc]

Tim everyone in the honey hole is a pro, don't hate on us because we are awesome! Plus it's where the babes and Jim hang out. Ain't never gonna change. Lol next please.

Lol! No hate man, just reminds me of that movie point break that's all

What kind of health insurance do you have for crossing the border often for "high impact" sports?
One broken leg and thats a hefty a$$ bill

Squamish is all about "the pros, the social media and the babes anyways"
Its a horrible venue with no place for anybody but pros, I would never take lessons there

I know my credit card covers the insurance as long as it is not considered a competition, several major credit cards do the same.